The latest show on Black Op Radio (#1135) - the show the NSA doesn't want you to listen to - featured fellow Canadian Gerry Simone. They ended up talking about researchers who don't believe in a JFK conspiracy: {emphasis added in bold] (about 46 minutes into the broadcast)
Osanic: Well, thank you for doing this review. It saves me of having to stumble across the article. And, and having my stomach turned. [Laughter} But ...
Simone: Thanks for the opportunity, Len. This is my first podcast, and it takes some preparation and work, but it's well worth it.
Osanic: Good. Now, just before we wrap up, is there anything else you wanted to bring up on this ... ? Or even any other topic? Is there anything that I didn't get to or that you actually want to talk about?
Simone: Um, no, just that I'm, I'm still, I still look at other aspects of the assassination, you know, on social media, Facebook groups, people will ask questions, especially on Quora, they'll ask questions that some of them are obvious, there's obvious answers, and some of them, not so obvious. And you have to go into detail. So I, I just, I address, I don't specialize in any one area. So I, if I find something that's interesting, whether it involves the single bullet theory or other issues, you know, JFK's foreign policy, that's an important area that Jim DiEugenio has presented on, or other minutiae of the assassination. I write about it, as I address it, but it seems like there's something every week, that I'll see on social media, and there are still many who, who are Warren Commission defenders that are out there. So ...
Osanic: Yeah, well, there's a payroll for them, so that.
Simone: You know what? It's I, it just boggles the mind. It boggles the mind.
Osanic: And when you hear the Twitter files that were released by, you know, Elon Musk, and he gave them to Matt Taibbi and find out there's a, there's a wing there that the FBI is funding $3.4 million for them to be censoring. I mean, the FBI has billions of dollars to throw into that. Well, you just know that there's other money and slush funds to keep these guys that you would think are ... ? Well, I'll just leave it alone. I'll leave it alone. [Laughter]
Yeah, when I, these people that are Warren Commission supporters, you just laugh. I wonder how they had the logic to get a driver's license. And then, if you think there is no logic, then you think, you know, okay, there, they're on some agenda and they must be paid for their spending their time. It's limitless.
Simone: Yeah. It makes me, especially if they've written a book on it, or two, like ...
Osanic: Yeah, you don't even have to mention his name. [Laughter]
Simone: [Laughter] But anyhow.
Osanic: You know, you already said McAdams and that was my quota, one per show.
Simone: Do you know what? He was, he was respectful with me. There was another guy there who was more harsh with me, but he was okay, because sometimes I came across things that would support his side. But then again, there's an interesting story, if you have ever had the time to look into and that's a story by the Canadian journalist who started the Toronto Sun, Peter Worthington. And Peter Worthington was there when Jack Ruby shot Oswald. He is there, there's a video, there's photos of him. And then he later covered the trial of Jack Ruby. And he would write about the assassination. He didn't believe in a conspiracy, but he always wondered, why are they holding all these files secret still. And he, he claims that he just walked down that ramp. And he said to him, and he said, I must have looked like a G Man, you know, and it was by fluke that he went down that morning because Oswald was supposed to come out at four, four o'clock, but he wanted to check the lay of the land. And he beat the Toronto Star journalist who was still in bed, who slept in, and they suspended him without pay, the Toronto Star journalist for two weeks. And because Peter Worthington from the Toronto Telegram got the story, but that's another fascinating account. So I remember mentioning that to McAdams -- here's a guy who says he just walked down, walked down the ramp. But you know,
Osanic: But, the thing is, these guys are disingenuous on the research. I mean, it's just ...
Simone: Well, I could, you know, Peter Worthington, that's mainstream media.
Osanic: No, no, no, I mean, McAdams.
Simone: Oh, oh God,
Osanic: You know ...
Simone: I, you know, to put it mildly, I thought he was a very good spin artist, that's how I'll put it, but yeah.
I guess Osanic thinks that non-conspiracy people should pay higher car insurance rates:
Osanic: Yeah, when I, these people that are Warren Commission supporters, you just laugh. I wonder how they had the logic to get a driver's license. And then, if you think there is no logic, then you think, you know, okay, there, they're on some agenda and they must be paid for their spending their time. It's limitless.
Simone: Yeah. It makes me, especially if they've written a book on it, or two, like ...
Osanic: Yeah, you don't even have to mention his name. [Laughter]
I think that Gerry Simone was referring to me - but like the love that dare not speak its name, I am the assassination researcher whose name they dare not speak.
Mr. Osanic clearly thinks that logic is on his side. All of this underscores the problem of the JFK assassination as an intellectual discipline. Every year there are assassination conferences, but if you don't believe in conspiracy, you will not get invited to present.
It wasn't always the case, but Cyril Wecht made the case back in the early 90s that people who believe there was no conspiracy should not be invited:
Cyril Wecht followed me [James DiEugenio] as a speaker, and at the end of his comments made a ringing declaration against inviting "fence-sitters" to any more of these seminars. He specifically mentioned Vaughn [Todd Vaughan] who, on the medical panel, had argued for the single-bullet theory.
That last night's panel was one of the most emotional I had ever seen at a JFK convention. John Judge, Wecht, and myself were all interrupted several times by sustained applause and Wecht's powerful peroration against equivocators brought the house down.
Yup, brought the house down. Please read Gus Russo's response to James DiEugenio:
DiEugenio’s next complete misrepresentation concerns the performance of Cyril Wecht at the conference, describing it as “a powerful peroration against equivocators.” The implication is that “equivocators” are people who attend the conference in search of the truth, whatever that might be, as opposed to the zealots who claim to know the truth, and only see these events as pep rallies. Funny, that description was not included on the ASK brochure sent to me. I can assure the reader that if it were, I would not have wasted my time there.
That is why you won't see researchers like me (or many other researchers) at any of the JFK conferences held each year. So, audiences won't get to hear how Steve Roe found Elmer Todd's initials on CE 399 and they won't hear my possible solution to the Bolton Ford mystery.
That would disturb the karma of these conferences.
Peter Worthington story, discussed by Simone, is indeed interesting. But he didn't go down the ramp:
It was around 9 a.m. on the Sunday, and I remember thinking of my army days and the admonition: "Time spent on reconnaissance is never wasted." An agitated conscience persuaded me to check out the police station before bedding down. I wanted to know the lay of the land for the 5 p.m. move. I'd still catch a couple of hours sleep.
The police station was quiet, but stairs leading to the underground garage was [sic] alive with the babble of voices. I went down, prepared to show what credentials I had and to explain my dishevelled, unshaven presence if there was a security check.
There was none. I found myself on the police side of the garage, TV cameras and journalists packed and hollering across the driveway. I began chatting with a plainclothes cop, hoping to discourage others from questioning my presence.
I think local cops assumed I was FBI, while the FBI figured I was a local cop.