Fred Litwin
Jan 10, 20228 min
Updated: Mar 23, 2022
Listening to Oliver Stone on the Joe Rogan Experience is quite a chore. Rogan doesn't know much about the JFK assassination, and Oliver Stone can't go beyond some very shallow talking points. Supposedly Stone sent Rogan the full four-hour version of the so-called documentary, JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass, but I can't find any evidence that Rogan actually watched it.
Here is a short excerpt from a transcript: (27:07)
Rogan: How aware was Kennedy that he was in danger? Was he at all aware?
Stone: Oh yeah. Oh yea. In fact, he had that Irish sense of tragedy. He went to Ireland before he died and he kind of knew it. You know.
Rogan: Do you think he knew that they were going to try and assassinate him?
Stone: Oh, he knew about that because there were several attempts already.
Rogan: Were there other attempts?
Stone: Oh yeah.
Rogan: I didn't know about ...
Stone: In the documentary, we go ...
Rogan: That's right.
Stone: To Chicago ...
Rogan: That's right ...
Stone: And Tampa ...
Rogan: Can you just give us a brief outline of those?
Stone: Ok. There's a lot of information there. In Chicago, early November of 63, a landlady complained about four Cubans with arms in an apartment that she owned, that they rented briefly, and two of them were busted. Two of them disappeared. And the two of them who were busted were interrogated and let go. Which is strange.
Rogan: Yeah.
Stone: There was also a patsy that was similar to Oswald, same profile as Oswald, he'd been a marine, he had been in Japan, at an airbase. he had expressed his dissatisfaction. another air base, not the same one, not Atsugi... he expressed his dissatisfaction with the United States. He defected to Russia.
If you want to know about the supposed Chicago plot, then please read my blog post.
There is no evidence that there was a plot in Chicago. Oliver Stone's story about the Cubans comes from Edwin Black's article from November 1975. And he only had one source -- ex-Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden. There is no documentary evidence to support Bolden's allegations.
Thomas Vallee was indeed arrested but he did not actually threaten JFK's life. And Oliver Stone is just plain wrong about Vallee being a defector to the Soviet Union. He wasn't.
In fact, Vallee was not linked to the supposed Chicago plot. Here is what the House Select Committee on Assassinations wrote:
The committee was unable to document the existence of the alleged assassination team. Specifically, no agent who had been assigned to Chicago confirmed any aspect of Bolden's version. One agent did state there had been a threat in Chicago during that period, but he was unable to recall the details. Bolden did not link Vallee to the supposed four-man assassination team, although he claimed to remember Vallee's name in connection with a 1963 Chicago case. He did not recognize Vallee's photograph when shown it by the committee.
So, here is my challenge to conspiracy theorists:
Please post some evidence to support the allegation regarding the four-man Cuban assassination team - the two men who were arrested and interrogated, and the two men who got away.
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